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  Lessons From Jonestown

  by Bangalore in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  lessons from jonestownthe mass suicide of people's temple followers 25 years ago teaches psychologists what happens when social psychology is placed in the wrong hands.. .

  http://www.apa.org/monitor/nov03/jonestown.aspx.

  bangalore.

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  Bungi Bill

  Jones was yet another person who reckoned he was The Messiah;

  - another reason why all similarly deluded nut jobs are very far from being "harmless", as has been claimed by some on this discussion board.

  Bill.
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  Ray "Banana man" Comfort really shows his ignorance

  by cantleave in

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  Bungi Bill

  TD,

  I agree with you 100%.

  Having known of Ray Comfort for well over 30 years (from the days when he used to hold forth in Christchurch, New Zealand), I would not describe him as having too much in the way of intellectual skills.

  There is such a thing as always remembering to "Engage Brain before putting Mouth into Gear", and - as you pointed out - Ray Comfort is not the only religionist to slip up with that one.

  Bill.
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  12-year-old thread: JWS/WTS REACHES CRITICAL MASS - A NON-EVENT!

  by steve2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few days ago, there was renewed interest in a 12-year-old thread which, among other points, argued the watchtower's days were numbered.

  several current posters expressed the view that the wts has not been impacted by any "critical mass" and that it speaks to the immunity of the watchtower to any such "critical mass" event.

  i thought the topic warranted a renewal for wider consideration - with the "benefit" of "12-years" hindsight - so have duplicated one of my responses: .

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  Bungi Bill

  Steve,

  What you have said sounds right on the money.

  Furthermore, the WTS has long recognised this itself - that in fact its greatest enemy is apathy. Thirty years ago, I can recall very stern warnings being issued by the Circuit Overseer on that very subject.

  If the day does indeed come when the "organisation" is no more, it will have been brought about by the ordinary rather than the spectacular.

  Bill.
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  What is your religious belief now?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a new poll at jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/ as i am very interested to see what people have moved on to believe.

  as this is considered sensitive by some, you can answer anonymously at the jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/, or answer on this thread.

  this is what i have created in the list, but feel free to add comments, corrections, or options i have missed.. .

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  Bungi Bill

  Totally religioned out would best describe me!

  Bill.
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  How long did you keep rooting for Walter White?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  isn't this guy like the greatest anti-hero of all time?.

  as the series wears on it is getting more and more difficult to sympathise with the guy.

  but i must admit i stuck with him pretty far.

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  Bungi Bill

  I have to say this before I completely laugh my head off !

  - down in this part of the world, the term "rooting" has an entirely different meaning to what it evidently has in North America.

  Bill.
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  For those claiming to be Christ: you are not! I am

  by AndDontCallMeShirley in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those claiming to be the biblical christ-messiah, you are wrong.

  i am the christ!

  and, i can prove it.. ----.

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  Bungi Bill

  Although said in jest, this one is as plausible an explanation as any others I have seen!

  Bill.
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  Feddy Franz Gives Us A Talk On Many Wrong Expectations And Understandings Of The Watchtower Corporation

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think freddy in this talk shows how delusional he is and was.

  to know all this stuff and still feel that the organization has the truth gives truth a new meaning.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmkdwk5svxm.

  may your faith be strengthed in god's earthly organization right up to the final end!.

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  Bungi Bill

  I tried to listen to this one, but after approximately 40 seconds, I became so violently sick that I had to give it away!

  Bill.
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  Field service is personal ministry

  by Dismissing servant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a publisher in a congregation doesn't represent the watchtower organisation (due to legal reasons/insurance etc) .

  they just represent themselves as individuals.

  so why are publishers supposed to hand in their reports to the congregation/wts?

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  Bungi Bill

  There is nothing like trying to have it both ways!

  - individual publishers are expected to jump when the GB says jump.

  - yet when quizzed about who is directing this activity, they are expected to say that it is a "personal" ministry.

  Imagine if it WAS a "personal ministry". No territory maps, no Field Service Groups, no WTS dress code, no end-of-month Field Service Reports required, publishers free to present whatever literature they saw fit to use, "Bible Studies" using just the bible (or whichever bible study aid an individual publisher decided was most appropriate) . The beloved Watchtower Society would dearly love all that!

  "Personal Ministry" all-right, next thing they will be trying to tell us the tooth fairy exists!

  Bill.
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  Do You Believe In ANYTHING That The Witnesses Taught At This Point In Your Life?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for example, they pride themselves in what they don't believe such as immortal souls, the trinity, hellfire, etc.. some exjws still believe it is the "truth" and support the basics.. .

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  Bungi Bill

  Like many others, I found out the hard way to trust nothing that lot ever said, or put into print.

  Anything ever written by the WTS - unless corroborated from another source - I would automatically dismiss out of hand as being fictitious (or at the very best, misleading).

  Bill.
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  The BRAND is what sells JW's and the alternate lifestyle

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses don't have a message.

  they have an alternate lifestyle.. for persons put off by teachings of eternal torment they offer eternal sleep or a paradise earth.. for christians disaffected by tepid sermons and rituals they offer a vital lifesaving field service ministry.. in a world saturated in sex and exhibitionism, loud rude music and apathy they offer modesty of dress, cleanliness and worldwide family.. they are seen by the world much the same way as the amish only more modern.. people find their teaching quaint or laughable but think they are sincere and eager for postive change.. .

  this is a brand more than a religion.. when the average person looks at jw's they see loyalty.

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  Bungi Bill

  Terry,

  The operative word here is "appear"!

  Bill.